5-HTP side effects, benefits, research studies, safety, toxicity, risks,
dosage 50 mg, 100 mg and 300 mg and overdosage - How effective is a 5-HTP
supplement?
A review of the use of this natural supplement for depression, mood disorders,
insomnia, fibromyalgia, appetite control and weight loss, and impulse control,
and interactions with drugs and prescription medications such as SSRI
antidepressants and natural antidepressants such as SAM-e and St. John's wort
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5-HTP (5-hydroxytryptophan or
5-hydroxy-l-tryptophan, also abbreviated as 5HTP) is a natural
supplement that converts in the brain into serotonin. Serotonin is an
important brain chemical involved in mood, behavior, appetite, and
sleep. Serotonin is also involved in impulse control. For instance, low
serotonin levels may lead to addictive behavior such as gambling or
other habits caused by weak will power. Serotonin is known as 5-HT, or
5-hydroxytryptamine, and is found in many places in the body
particularly the brain, gastrointestinal system, and blood cells. This
article will discuss the proper use of 5-HTP along with mentioning side
effects and information on the use of 5-HTP for depression and mood
disorders. Below you will find a number of questions by consumers along
with interesting testimonials.
5 HTP supplements have been helpful for many
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Some people are deficient in serotonin and hence a 5-HTP supplement may
be helpful to them for depression or other issues, whereas other people
may have depression, anxiety, and other symptoms that may appear to be
due to serotonin deficiency, but may actually be from other causes.
There's really no easy way -- for instance blood studies in a doctor's
office -- to tell whether someone is deficient in serotonin, and if they
are, whether a 5-HTP supplement would help treat their depression or
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5 HTP side effects, safety, toxicity, risk and danger
5-HTP was introduced to the over the counter market in 1994. Our
understanding of its clinical role and its long term side effect profile is still
fuzzy. We don't know as much as we should about the side effects of chronic
5-HTP use for depression or other conditions. Therefore, until we learn more,
the idea is to take 5-HTP in the minimum effective dosage and to avoid its
prolonged continuous use. I tell my patients who use 5-HTP for depression or
other reasons to take frequent breaks to avoid potential 5-HTP side effects (the
frequency and length of breaks varies since each person is unique). During these
breaks, other forms of therapy could be substituted. As of now, and after more
than a decade off 5-HTP being available to the public, I am not aware of any
reports in the medical literature of anyone who has encountered life threatening
or other serious 5 HTP side effects. It's best to be cautious, limit use to 50
mg or at most 100 mg a day, and take breaks.
Common side effects with high dosage include nausea, stomach upset,
loose stools or constipation, and headache. Regular use could lead to reduce sex
drive or libido. Could 5 HTP be an effective supplement for those with sex
addiction?
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Dosage for depression,
appetite control, and other health issues
Some studies have used dosages of 300 mg a day of 5 HTP for
depression, but I consider any 5-HTP dose above 50 mg to 100 mg a high dose.
Most products on the market are sold in 50 and 100 mg capsules. Some people do
well with 20 to 50 mg, while others may temporarily require 100 mg or more. I'm
not aware of products on the market that are less than 50 mg. Those who do
well with small doses can open a capsule and take a portion mixed with water.
5-HTP is best absorbed on an empty stomach, or some users have tried taking a
smaller amount of 5-HTP sublingually, that is, under the tongue. Medical
supervision is recommended if high doses of 5-HTP are required to treat a
particular condition. I don't recommend the routine use of daily intake doses
greater than 100 mg since there's the possibility of nausea or nightmares. Also,
we still don't know if there are any long term 5-HTP side effects if people take
high doses for many years. 5 HTP enhances dreams and makes them more vivid. Use
less than 50 mg in the evening to avoid or reduce nightmares. Some people may
find 10 to 30 mg works better. Capsules can be easily opened by pulling on each
end.
Safety of 5 HTP supplement -
information in the April 2004 issue of Toxicology Letters
Thus far there does not appear to be any toxicity caused by the use
of this supplement.
5 HTP has been sold over the counter since 1995 and no incidents of
toxicity have been reported in medical journals as of April 2009.
5-Hydroxy-L-tryptophan (5-HTP) is the immediate precursor in the
biosynthesis of 5-hydroxy-tryptamine (5-HT; serotonin) from the essential amino
acid L-tryptophan. The use of L-Tryptophan as a dietary supplement was
discontinued in 1989 due to an outbreak of eosinophilia-myalgia syndrome (EMS)
that was traced to a contaminated synthetic L-Tryptophan from a single
manufacturer. 5 HTP has since become a popular dietary supplement in lieu of the
removal of L-Tryptophan from the market. Because of its chemical and biochemical
relationship to L-Tryptophan, 5-HTP has been under vigilance by consumers,
industry, academia and government for its safety. However, no definitive cases
of toxicity have emerged despite the worldwide usage for the last 20 years, with
the possible exception of one unresolved case of a Canadian woman. Extensive
analyses of several sources of 5-HTP have shown no toxic contaminants similar to
those associated with L-Tryptophan, nor the presence of any other significant
impurities. A minor chromatographic peak (peak X) reported in some 5-HTP samples
lacks credibility due to chromatographic artifacts and infinitesimal
concentrations, and has raised undue speculations concerning its chemistry and
toxicity.
Das YT, Bagchi M, Bagchi D, Preuss HG. Safety of 5-hydroxy-L-tryptophan.
Toxicol Lett. 2004 Apr 15;150(1):111-22. ISSI Laboratories Inc., 515 Blue Ridge
Avenue, Piscataway, NJ 08854, USA.
Biochemistry and metabolism
Tryptophan converts to 5 HTP which converts to serotonin,
then to N-acetyl-serotonin, followed by the conversion to melatonin.
Note: Tryptophan is also metabolized by a different pathway, not all of
it is converted into 5-HTP.
Once serotonin is made, the pineal gland is able to
convert it at night into melatonin, the sleep-inducing hormone. Vitamin B6 is
involved in the process of serotonin formation.
Tryptophan, 5 HTP, and melatonin are
available for sale as supplements.
Short term 5-HTP side effects,
risks, safety and caution
5-HTP side effects from high doses (which could be 70 to 100 mg and
greater) include nausea and vomiting, stomach cramps, nightmares, and
decreased sex drive. Serotonin has an inhibitory effect on sexual
behavior, therefore, one of the 5-HTP side effects is decreased libido.
Tiredness and sleepiness can occur after several days or weeks of use,
which may indicate that a break should be taken. For those who
experience nightmares or other 5HTP side effects such as nausea or
decreased libido, you may consider taking a lower dose.
Here's a report from one user, "Hi, great website. I am
writing because I just yesterday took a 100 mg. 5-htp. I feel awful for
the most part. I am usually sensitive to any side effects, and I just
feel the stomach discomfort and fullness and then feel kind of
disoriented and weird."
Nightmares sometimes decrease after the first few nights.
Long term side effects, risks, caution, danger
Long term side effects with 5-HTP are not fully known. When
hundreds of thousands of people start taking a supplement that has not
had adequate long-term testing, there may be some individuals who have a
biochemical abnormality in metabolizing that nutrient that was
previously not known. We don't know the consequences on the immune
system, skin, and other tissues of long-term 5-HTP therapy. Regular long
term use is not recommended at this time.
At this point of our knowledge with 5-HTP, it would be best
not to use it while trying to become pregnant or during pregnancy. The
safety of 5-HTP during lactation and breast feeding is not known.
Source and manufacture
5-HTP is made in the body from the amino acid tryptophan. Most of
the 5-HTP produced in the body comes from its manufacture in the
intestines from tryptophan. Tryptophan is an essential amino acid; that
is, the body does not have the capacity to synthesize it. All the supply
of tryptophan must be gotten through foods that contain protein.
5-HTP sold over the counter is extracted from the Griffonia
seed. The seeds come from an African tree grown mostly in Ghana and the
Ivory Coast. 5-HTP can also be made synthetically in the laboratory. The
final product is the same as the one made by the body. Only a small (3
to 7) percent of the griffonia seed is made of 5-HTP, therefore,
consuming griffonia seeds is not an efficient way of getting 5-HTP.
5-HTP is not made from fermentation of bacteria.
Is there a 5 htp product that is not made with the
griffonia seed? I seem to be allergic to it.
Thus far, and as far as we know, this supplement is made as
an extract from the griffonia seed. You
may consider tryptophan pills as an alternative.
5-HTP supplement Interactions with prescription
medications and antidepressants
The use of 5-HTP for depression in combination with SSRIs such as
Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, and others has not been formally evaluated.
Anecdotal reports indicate that many people tolerate small amount of
5-HTP, 50 mg or less, with reduced doses of SSRIs when used under the
guidance of a medical professional. The effects of taking 5-HTP for
depression along with a pharmaceutical antidepressant are sometimes
difficult to predict. Since the SSRIs, like Prozac, block serotonin
reuptake, and 5-HTP converts into serotonin, it is possible that
dangerously high levels of serotonin could occur, a condition called
serotonin syndrome.
It is difficult to predict the interaction of 5-HTP with
lithium, MAO inhibitors, anti-anxiety agents, beta blockers, birth
control pills, and other pharmaceutical medicines.
Some physicians are using a combination of two or more
natural antidepressants such as 5-HTP, St. John's wort, SAM-e, and
others. However the interactions are not fully known and caution is
advised when 5-HTP is used for depression in combination with other
supplements. Any such combination should be done under medical
supervision.
Dosage and timing, how often to take, what time of
day to use for best results
It's difficult to say what the best time to take 5-HTP since it
varies among individuals. It depends whether 5-HTP is being used for
depression, sleep, or other issues, in the case of sleep 5-HTP is taken
in the evening; for anxiety or depression, 5-HTP can be taken any time
of day. For weight loss or appetite control, 5-HTP may be taken on an
empty stomach an hour or two before a meal.
If you do take 5-HTP during the day, it's best to keep your
5-HTP dosage to less than 50 mg since sleepiness may occur. 5-HTP is
absorbed better taken on an empty stomach.
There is has not been enough research done with 5-HTP to know
the ideal dosage and timing. Also, there is significant individual
variability to the response to 5-HTP. Hence, each person may need to
find out for himself or herself the lowest 5-HTP dosage that works well,
and the ideal timing, whether early in the day, midday or evening.
A small amount of alcohol usually does not interfere with
5-HTP, but larger amounts may.
Benefit of 5-HTP for anxiety and sleep, tension
relief
Some people who take 5-HTP notice the benefit of better mood balance,
decrease in appetite, reduced anxiety, better impulse control, and
better sleep. Try a dose lower than 50 mg for sleep, and 5-HTP is not
consistent in inducing sleep. I have come across some individuals who
find themselves more alert rather than in a relaxed, sleepy state of
mind.
Does 5-HTP help with weight loss? Some find that 5-HTP helps curb
appetite. This nutrient could be used temporarily for appetite
suppression while other lifestyle and dietary changes are being
incorporated regarding a life long plan for keeping weight off. Not
everyone notices the appetite suppressing effect from 5-HTP. A study in
rodents indicates that this serotonin precursor may be useful in
controlling the excessive food intake sometimes generated by stress.
Long term human studies are not available to determine whether 5-HTP for
weight loss is a good option.
5-HTP may be temporarily helpful in conditions that normally
require prescription antidepressants, anti-anxiety agents, sleeping
pills, and weight loss drugs. 5-HTP may also be helpful in some
individuals with migraine headaches and fibromyalgia although much more
research is needed.
5-HTP reduces the severity of a panic attack which may indicate
that panic attacks may partly be due to low serotonin levels.
Antioxidant benefit
5-HTP is a more potent in vitro hydroxyl radical scavenger than melatonin
or vitamin C.
J Pineal Res. 2005 Jan;38(1):62-6.
Hydroxyl radicals are involved in direct damage of important biomolecules.
Potent radical scavengers such as vitamin C and indoles of the
tryptophan family can avert the potential damage. Melatonin and its
precursor 5-hydroxytryptophan ( 5-HTP ) were compared with water-soluble
vitamin C. 5-HTP showed highest hydroxyl radical scavenging
effects, more than vitamin C, which was more than melatonin.
Other herbs and supplements
used for relaxation or stress relief
Dried passion flower (genus Passiflora) is a safe and effective
relaxation herb. Skullcap (genus Scutellaria), hops (Humulus lupulus),
lemon balm (Melissa officinalis) and Valerian (Valeriana officinalis)
root are all herbs reported as calming agents. Extracts of Magnolia and
Phellondendron bark are mild sedatives. Supplements such as
gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA), theanine, and tryptophan promote
relaxation.
Prozac or 5 HTP for depression
The choice of whether to take natural supplements such as 5-HTP for
depression or pharmaceutical medicines is a personal one along with a
consultation with a health care professional. There are quite a number
of factors, too many to list, that have to be considered. Those with
mild depression may wish to try natural antidepressants first whereas
those with moderate to severe depression would likely need a strong
pharmaceutical medicine at first. Other nutrients to consider for
depression include SAM-e and St. John's wort.
Prozac and other SSRIs have been tested more thoroughly than
natural supplements for depression. 5-HTP is trickier to use, tolerance
may develop, long-term safety is not known as well, but it works well
for some people in improving mood, reducing appetite, and improving
sleep. It's very difficult, if not nearly impossible, to predict how
each person will react or respond to a medicine or nutrient. Sometimes
the best method is trial and error. If you have mild depression, try
5-HTP starting with 50 mg a day and discuss with your doctor regarding
long term use.
Q. I just ordered a bottle of 5HTP. I have taken one 40mg
pill of Paxil each night for many years for OCD. I am 42 years old. I have grown
tired of the side effects of Paxil, as well as it has become more expensive for
me now that I am paying in full for my own health insurance. Is there a way I
could try to wean myself off the Paxil and see if 5HTP could make my condition
manageable instead of with drugs? Also, it looked like 5HTP was good to start
with, but would you suggest another natural product instead?
A. I can't make any suggestions on what a person should or should
not take. As a general rule, one can reduce the dosage of the SSRI medication,
in this case Paxil, while gradually starting with low dosages of 5HTP. The
amount of the Paxil or SSRI dosage reduction and the amount of the initial and
subsequent 5HTP dosage use depends on many factors including the severity of the
depression or OCD and the individual physiology of the patient. No firm dosages
guidelines can be given since each person responds differently.
To B6 or not to B6?
The potential benefit from taking vitamin B6 along with 5-HTP is
that B6 could help 5-HTP be converted into serotonin more efficiently. This is
good when it's done in the brain where we want more serotonin, but we also want
to minimize the conversion of 5-HTP to serotonin in the bloodstream. We want the
5-HTP to make it to the brain before being converted into serotonin. I prefer to
use a 5-HTP product without B6 added, but this issue is complicated and I don't
have all the answers.
Carbidopa and 5-HTP
There's a pharmaceutical medicine called carbidopa which blocks the
metabolism of 5-HTP in the blood stream allowing for more to be present in the
body. The question as to whether it is preferable to take carbidopa along with
5-HTP is not clear at this time but could be considered under medical
supervision. Taking carbidopa would most likely reduce the dosage required for
5-HTP since less 5-HTP would be broken down in the bloodstream and more would be
available to enter the brain. The side effects of 5-HTP, in terms of nausea and
vomiting, are more apparent with the use of carbidopa.
Pharmacology of rising oral doses of 5-hydroxytryptophan with
carbidopa.
J Psychopharmacol. 2008 June. Smarius LJ, Jacobs GE,
Hoeberechts-Lefrandt DH, de Kam ML, van der Post JP, de Rijk R, van Pelt
J, Schoemaker RC, Zitman FG, van Gerven JM, Gijsman HJ. Centre for Human
Drug Research and Department of Psychiatry, Leiden University Medical
Centre, Leiden, The Netherlands.
5-hydroxytryptophan (5-HTP) is a direct 5-hydroxytryptamine (5-HT,
serotonin) precursor used to assess central serotonergic function. Its
use has been limited by a narrow window between neuroendocrine changes
and side effects. By combining 5-HTP with carbidopa (CBD), increased
bioavailability for brain penetration and decreased peripheral side
effects would be expected, due to reduced peripheral decarboxylation of
5-HTP to 5-HT. A double-blind, placebo-controlled, single rising dose,
four-way crossover trial with placebo randomisation was performed in 15
healthy male volunteers to investigate the neuroendocrine dose-response
relationship at various 5-HTP levels; the tolerability and subjective
effects of oral 5-HTP at 100, 200 and 300 mg combined with carbidopa.
Dose-dependent increases in average cortisol concentrations were
observed. Nausea and vomiting occurred dose-dependently as most frequent
side effects, resulting in dose-related dropout of 6% at 100 mg and 45%
at 300 mg 5-HTP. Orally administered 5-HTP combined with carbiodpa is an
effective serotonergic challenge test, exhibiting dose-related plasma
concentrations and neuroendocrine responsiveness. Frequent occurrence of
nausea and vomiting limits the applicability of this challenge at 5-HTP
doses above 100 mg.
Comments: I would prefer the dosage be limited to 50 mg.
5-HTP and Peak X
Dr. Andrew Stoll, at Harvard Medical School in Boston reports that
there may be a handful of cases of EMS worldwide from the use of 5-HTP.
He recommends users contact the manufacturer of their product to make
sure that the product does not contain Peak X.
I am not aware of a recent independent laboratory testing of
5-HTP products to know whether or not they contain Peak X. As a
consumer, you do have the option to contact a company that sells 5-HTP
and ask them if they have tested for Peak X. Thus far, as of April 2009,
no reports have been published indicating any significant harm from peak
X found in a 5-HTP product even though this natural serotonin precursor
has been widely sold over the counter since 1995.
ADD, ADHD
I have not seen much research regarding the use of 5 HTP for ADD, ADHD,
attention deficit hyperactivity disorder.
5-HTP and OCD
Little research has been done with 5-HTP and OCD, but this nutrient may
be tried for a few days or weeks to see if it is effective.
Combining 5-HTP and SAM-e
supplements
Q. Is it ok to combine 5-HTP and Sam-e supplements?
A. There is no simple answer in regards to combining 5-HTP and
SAM-e supplements. SAM-e is a powerful supplement, so is 5-HTP. They work in
different ways. 5-HTP helps to balance serotonin and reduce stress and anxiety
along with a mood lift. SAM-e increases energy and mood, but in high dosages can
cause anxiety and insomnia. The best way is to first learn how each one works by
itself for a period of a week or two, and if combining the two supplements, it
is a good idea to take half the regular dosage. A SAM-e pill may be taken in the
morning while 5-HTP pill could be taken in the afternoon or evening. There are
some people who would respond to a SAM-e pill by itself, others do better with
5-HTP pills, and still others may benefit from a combination. It is not easy to
predict which will work best. Have approval by a health care provider. Dosages
of supplements should be adjusted on a regular basis to avoid side effects. This
may require lowering dosages or taking a day off every few days.
5-HTP and St. John's wort
combination
It is possible to combine these two supplements as long as the dosage is low for
both. The St. John's wort extract can be taken in the morning whereas the
serotonin precursor can be taken in late afternoon or early evening. It may be a
good idea to limit the 5-HTP dosage to 50 mg or less.
Use by a child
My son is 13 years old and has OCD and high anxiety. I take 5-Htp for
basically the same thing and I was wondering if it is safe to give a 13 year old
boy 50mg before bed? Is it safe to give it to a child?
Can 5 htp be given to children?
5-HTP has not adequately been studied in children,
hence it is difficult to make recommendations. If used at all, it is probably
best that it be done under medical supervision and only for brief periods and in
dosages of 10 to 30 mg.
5-HTP Research studies
Pyridoxine, regardless of serotonin levels, increases production of
5-hydroxytryptophan in rat brain.
Arch Med Res. 2004 Jul-Aug;35(4):271-4.
The aim of this study was to evaluate effects of pyridoxine and
butylated hydroxytoluene (BHT) on lipid peroxidation and on levels of
5-hydroxytryptophan and serotonin. Thirty rats (30 days of age) were used in the
survey, measuring levels of lipid peroxidation (TBARS), hemoglobin,
5-hydroxytryptophan (5-HTP or l 5-htp), and serotonin (5-HT) after
intraperitoneal (i.p.) injections of 4 and 10 mg/kg/day of pyridoxine HCl during
20 days and a single dose of 2 microM/kg (440 microg) of BHT. Levels of TBARS
and 5-HTP increased considerably in all vitamin- and/or BHT-treated groups, and
5-HT increased partially only in B(6) with or without BHT-treated groups
compared with control group. Results suggest that pyridoxine plays a role in
tryptophan metabolism, increasing production of 5-HTP.
5-HTP Prevents Panic Attacks
A panic attack involves the sudden appearance of several symptoms
including shortness of breath, sweating or shaking, palpitations, and the fear
of dying or losing control. Women are more likely than men to have this
condition. Doctors often prescribe anti-anxiety medicines such as Xanax or
Valium. However, a nutrient known as 5-HTP may play an important role. 5-HTP
stands for 5-Hydroxytryptophan, a supplement available over the counter that,
when ingested, goes to the brain and converts into the brain chemical serotonin.
Serotonin is known to induce relaxation and balance mood. Researchers at the
Department of Neuropsychology at Maastricht University in The Netherlands were
able to induce a panic attack in volunteers who suffer from panic disorder by
having them breathe a high concentration of carbon dioxide. They repeated the
study, this time giving half of the volunteers 200-mg of 5-HTP while the others
received a placebo. Those who took 5-HTP had a significantly diminished panic
response compared to those on placebo.
Dr. Sahelian says: 5-HTP is available in health food stores
in a dosage of 50 mg. The results of this study are quite interesting and
indicate that those with panic attacks may not have adequate levels of
serotonin. If you suffer from frequent panic attacks, it would be worthwhile to
discuss the findings of this 5-HTP study with your physician.
The effect of 5-hydroxytryptophan on cholecystokinin-4-induced panic
attacks in healthy volunteers.
J Psychopharmacol. 2004 Jun;18(2):194-9. Department of Psychiatry,
University of Tartu, Raja, Estonia.
Previous studies suggest a modulatory role of serotonin in
experimentally-induced panic attacks. In the current study, we investigated the
acute effects of 5-HT precursor l-5-hydroxytryptophan ( 5-HTP ) on the response
to panicogenic challenge with cholecystokinin-tetrapeptide (CCK-4) in healthy
volunteers. Thirty-two subjects were randomized to receive either 200 mg of
5-HTP or placebo with the CCK-4 challenge following in 90 min in a double-blind,
parallel-group design. The results showed a nonsignificant difference between
the groups in panic rate (19% after 5-HTP and 44% after placebo) with a trend
for lower intensity of symptoms after 5-HTP . Further analysis by gender
revealed that females in the 5-HTP group had a significantly lower panic rate
and intensity of cognitive symptoms whereas, in males, the effect of 5-HTP was
limited to lowering the intensity of somatic panic symptoms. Thus, an increased
availability of 5-HT may have a gender-dependent protective effect in
CCK-4-induced panic.
Single-dose administration of 5-hydroxytryptophan is regularly used as a
challenge test of the serotonergic system. The use of 5-HTP has been limited by
an apparent small window between the occurrence of neuroendocrine endpoints and
the occurrence of side effects. Therefore, many dosing strategies have been
tried with and without concurrent administration of carbidopa, a peripheral
inhibitor of the decarboxylation from 5-HTP to serotonin. The aim of the current
study was to assess the relation between pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics.
Twelve healthy male volunteers were included in a placebo-controlled,
randomized, four-way crossover, double-blind, single-dose investigation of oral
5-HTP with or without coadministration of carbidopa. The four dose regimens were
placebo, 5-HTP 100 mg, 5-HTP 200 mg, and 5-HTP 100 mg with coadministration of
carbidopa 100 mg and 50 mg at 3 hours before and 3 hours after the
administration of 5-HTP, respectively. The last regimen resulted in a doubling
of the elimination half-life, an apparent clearance at least 14 times smaller,
and a 15.4 times greater area under the curve compared with 5-HTP 100 mg without
carbidopa. Furthermore, it was the only regimen to induce a significant change
in cortisol and prolactin. It did not induce any change in subjective
psychologic symptoms or cardiovascular parameters, but it was the only regimen
to induce some nausea in three participants. The authors conclude that this
regimen of 5-HTP 100 mg plus carbidopa is a relatively simple, effective, and
tolerable challenge of the presynaptic serotonergic system.
Emails from 5-HTP users
Q. I
have been taking 5- HTP for depression for about one month now, and I feel
great, so far. If I take the 5 HTP for depression, will it have side effects
that will affect my sex life?
A. 5-HTP
converts into serotonin which is known to decrease sexual interest or sensation.
Low libido or sexual interest is an unfortunate 5 HTP side effect. This can be
reversed when you stop its use, and if you wish to enhance the low libido once
you are off the supplement, Passion Rx or other sexual herbs or sex enhancing
formulas can work well for this purpose.
Q. Do you know of any other herbs or
natural substances besides 5-htp supplement than can delay orgasm?
A. Perhaps kava or tryptophan may be helpful in this regard.
You mention taking breaks from use of 5-HTP for depression. Is this
because of adverse effects? How long should these breaks be?
Each person is different and I am not in a position to be
precise since the length and frequency of breaks would be
different for each individual depending on many factors including
severity of medical condition, age, use of other supplements, use of
medicines, concurrent medical conditions, weight, prior use of
medicines, etc. Anyone planning its use for prolonged periods
should consider reducing intake and frequency of use in order to
minimize adverse events.
Q. I am currently taking 150 mg of 5-HTP dosage daily for depression. I
also use it for anxiety and OCD. I know that you recommend taking
breaks, but how long should I take 5-HTP before I take a break and how
long should the break be before resuming the 5-HTP again? I absolutely
love 5-HTP! In the past, I have been on Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, Effexor
and Lexapro before finally deciding to take the natural route and am
happy that I did.
A. Each person is unique in how they respond to 5-HTP, including
dosage, frequency of use, and length of breaks. I am not in a position
to make individual recommendations but suggest you have a discussion
with your health care practitioner.
I've been experimenting with 5-htp for a few weeks now, due to chronic
sleeplessness and overall high anxiety levels. I'm
sleeping full nights and am much less anxious. But my eyes are tearing
incessantly, my skin feels like it's got prickle pears, mildly itchy,
and I'm feeling generally wan and run down, even if I just take a little, even 50 mgs a day (which is not enough to let me sleep). Have
you ever heard of this sort of 5-HTP side effect in your years of study?
I have not heard of this 5-HTP side effect. If the symptoms go away by stopping the 5-HTP and
reoccur by restarting, then that would confirm that in your case it
was responsible.
Over the past 4 years I have been doing my best to battle recurring bouts
of depression that have plagued me for a decent portion of my life.
Doctors and specialists prescribed just about every SSRI available on
the market, in addition to one MAOI. Each was received with varying side
effects that at times seemed worse than the depression itself! I decided
it would be best for me to conduct some research of my own in an attempt
to find an alternative solution besides doctor prescribed drugs. To my
horror, one of my first discoveries was that Canadian doctors were often
paid "incentive bonuses" by pharmaceutical companies for the majority of
SSRI's prescribed to people like me! Tryptophan was never even mentioned
or discussed probably due to the fact that it can't be patented as is
mentioned in your 5-HTP book which was published many years ago. 5-htp
has done wonders for me in the past 3 weeks and I plan on continuing its
use with occasional breaks as recommended in your book. Thanks once
again for writing a fantastic book Nature's Serotonin Solution and keep
up the excellent non-jargoned writing for people like myself. You
explained everything clearly and impressively from both a first and
second hand perspective.
I have been taking 100 mg of 5-htp dosage (before bedtime) for about 3
years now and it has helped my depression. I am sleepy in the morning
but I also take cyclobenzaprene 10 mg at night for my back. I have
noticed that I have a high pulse rate usually between 90 and 115. I'm
not sure if the 5-htp is the cause. Can a person just stop taking 5-htp
or do they have to wean themselves off?
It's hard to say. Each person is different in how they
would respond. With most medicines taken for a long period, it probably
is a good idea to lower dosage and gradually wean off. I personally have
not treated anyone with 5-htp for prolonged continuous periods. I often
recommend taking frequent breaks from 5-htp use.
I have been taking 50 to 300mg of 5-HTP for about 2 months at bedtime to
help my sleep and depression. 5HTP definitely helps my depression but I
still felt tired and achy so I added 5 mg of NADH first thing in the
morning to my regime for one week so far. I've had a few serious bouts
of depression after adding the NADH but a lot more energy. I find it's
better if I alternate between the two. Also, I've become very
constipated after taking the 5-HTP. Reading your website, and from
experience of reducing the amount and consistency of 5-HTP, the
grogginess is less. For your info, I found that taking 5-HTP actually
increased my libido but that I've already become tolerant to that
benefit. I find 5-HTP relaxes me and reduces my negative thinking
greatly. Reading your website, I'm pretty amazed at some of the horrific
negative 5-HTP side effects it has had on some people.
After being severely depressed for twenty years, I took Lexapro, and then,
when I realized that prescription was only helping me to a point, I
tried Prozac for a year and a half (and of course gained an unwelcome
amount of weight with both). Usually, the medication worked well, but
for an instant - every time I walked past a mirror and saw this fat
woman standing where I should have been - my depression returned. Of
course, I needed an anti-depressant but certainly not one that would
cause me to be depressed whenever I happened on my reflection. I thought
5-HTP was just a catchy name of a product that wasn't going to help me
in the least. But I was desperate to find something that wouldn't spring
a side-effect on me that was almost as uncomfortable as the condition I
originally set out to cure...and my God, 5-HTP still hasn't surprised me
with any adverse reaction that ALSO has to be treated by medication. I
take 5-HTP 100 milligrams in the morning and 100 just before dinner. My
panic attacks and rollercoaster emotions are at bay, I'm beginning to
see myself in a more positive manner, appreciate and not be suspicious
of others, have the sensitivity and patience to be a good owner of a
pet, have more physical and mental energy, and (good-bye Ambien), my,
my, my... I quickly go to a restive sleep (that hasn't happened in
years!). A couple of weeks ago, my claustrophobia and vertigo (friends
of mine for most of my life) vanished! And to top it all off, I'm
starting to lose weight. So far, I believe I've lost about five pounds
but - and I'm not worrying - I like what I see in the mirror: an
overweight woman who happens to be very happy and very pretty.
Just wanted to say thanks for the great info on your web site! I was
looking for info on 5-HTP, as I have been on 50mgs before bed each night
for almost a week now with pretty good results for my depression,
anxiety, and ADD. However, I have been experiencing some of the 5-HTP
side effects noted on your web page. Headaches, bizarre dreams, and
stomach problems, which is the worst of the effects. The last two days I
have been experiencing heavy fatigue and sleepiness early in the day, so
I thought I would see what kind of information I could find about 5-HTP.
It has definitely helped my mood problems and I have had literally no
anxiety, which is a great thing! However, the 5-HTP side effects are too
much and I have thought about trying Sam-e again.
Q. I started taking 5 htp about 3 weeks ago now - 75mg tab a day. At first
I took it in the morning (recently I've taken it in the afternoon). I
think it took a week at least to show any effects. The first time I
really noticed something it was an "ecstasy" like effect extremely
elevated mood and palms of hands feeling soft. That night I felt very
wired, couldn't sleep because I felt like laughing! Now in my 4th week
of 75mg 5-htp a day, I don't feel happy, just sluggish during the day,
and I don't know if its related but i've got a bad eczema case around my
mouth. I think I'll just quit. How on earth could anyone take 300 mg
doses like the guy whose written the book on it suggests? Sleeping is
good I'll say that much, but you cant operate feeling this tired all
day. God I feel so let down by it.
A. Some people may have a better response with fewer adverse
effects while taking 25 mg or 50 mg a day.
I have suffered with chronic Insomnia for 13 years and have been taking
Ambien to gain regular sleep. I HATE taking prescriptions, but when you
are tired and miserable for 13 years, you will do anything to get a good
night’s rest! I recently tried 5-HTP for 4 days and though I did not see
instant results, after the third night I found that I was obtaining
better sleep. I still woke up several times throughout the evening, but
I was able to fall back to sleep without much trouble. That, in and of
itself, is a miracle. I did, however; find that I was getting rather bad
headaches, and stomach cramps. I would love to continue taking the 5-HTP
because of the positive changes I felt in my sleep, mood, alertness, and
overall sense of well being…but not if my stomach is going to feel like
it’s about to explode! I only took 50mg per evening and thought perhaps
taking a smaller dose could be a better way to go. I looked and have not
been able to find it in smaller doses. Thank you for the information you
have provided on 5-HTP. It has been very valuable to me. I appreciate
your un-biased articles and the information you provided from others who
have tried 5-HTP.
Thank you for your posting people's experiences with 5-htp. It is very
helpful because my health care professional only knows about drugs. I am
using 5-HTP for anxiety and depression. My psychologist wanted me to
take Paxil, but I was referred to 5 htp by a clerk at our local health
food store. After taking 100 mg before bed for several days, I felt
normal. I could laugh again and have hope. I've been depressed for many
months. I felt so good that I thought I was "cured" and stopped taking
5-HTP when the bottle ran out. The anxiety and depression came back
within a week and seemed worse than before. So, I started taking 50 mg
at each meal and one at bedtime. The only side effect I have is loose
bowels and some stomach cramps in the middle of the night. After one
week of that regime, I was back to normal and cut 5-HTP down to one 50
mg in the morning and one at night. I sleep real well and have peace of
mind which is wonderful.
Will 5 HTP make you feel the same way every day? For example the first
time I took 50 mg. I felt very up, happy, energetic even the second time
I felt the same way but the next time I took it I felt a little anxious
and had a little headache so I decided to take only 25 mg. the next day
and all it did was make me very irritable and tired... but I can say it
has restored very deep sleep which I have been needing for a long time.
I'm just wondering what kind of effect it is suppose to have on a
person... does what you eat make the 5 htp react differently day to day?
One of the weaknesses of 5-HTP is that it may, in many
individuals, not have a consistent effect. This may depend on the time
of day the 5-HTP is taken, with or without food, other supplements taken
at the same time, the alertness level of the individual taking the
5-HTP, the dosage, etc.
A couple months ago I began using 5HTP as a sleep aid at night. I believe
I was using about 100 to 150 mg a night. I also used some tyrosine
during the day. After about a month or so after use I began experiencing
hallucinatory-like effects. They weren't true hallucinations at all, but
very vivid and nightmarish images. As soon as I stopped the 5-HTP the
images ceased completely. The whole ordeal was quite disturbing.
I've read on the web that excessive serotonin level in the blood stream
due to conversion of 5-HTP to serotonin can cause damage to heart
valves. That fact stopped me from taking 5 HTP for a while, but recently
I have changed my mind. I figure if people in Europe have been taking it
for years a strong connection between heart damage and 5 HTP use
would've been spotted by now. I just wanted to know your opinion on that
matter.
I still don't have an opinion on this issue, I have not
seen any studies or reports regarding the use of 5-HTP and influence, if
any, on heart valves. However, as time passes and no reports of such
heart valve problems are mentioned in medical journals, I am becoming
more assured that this supplement does not damage the heart. This
product was introduced to the US public in 1995 or so, and no major
problems have been mentioned yet in the medical literature.
I really want to thank you for writing the book on 5-HTP. By reading it I
was able to get a sense of where to start my dosage, how many days of
the week to skip, what to expect, etc. I also really appreciate how you
share your personal journal with us, and also that the client stories
were unbiased, as those people who did not have a good experience with
it are represented as well. I have recommended it to a few friends who
have been taking 5-HTP without any real supervision, or knowledge, and I
hope that it will help them to see that we really are, in many ways, lab
experiments. So far, so good. Sleep is getting deeper. Only side effect
is loose stools and stomach upset the morning after I take 5-HTP.
Hopefully it will pass.
Thank you for your 5-HTP web site and your cautious approach. I wish I
could make an appointment with you but I live in Ontario, Canada! I am
currently trying to get off Paxil (with my psychiatrist's
recommendation) of which I was taking 20 mg a day for stress related
insomnia. It has been absolutely awful. I have felt infinitely worse
than when I went on it. I have been experiencing extreme anxiety, rage
and depression--and all this from going down to 10mg over about 3
months. I hear that this is not uncommon; my doctor has had all of his
patients trying to get off Paxil -- except me -- go back on it because
they were not able to bear the withdrawal. He agrees that these are
genuine withdrawal symptoms and not relapses into depression. Since I
have been so desperate, I began taking 5-HTP (100mg a day) without
knowing much about it, which I now realize is not a good idea. The
problem is, it helps with the withdrawal tremendously. I'm sleeping far
better and am much happier and calmer. At first I thought that perhaps
the withdrawal symptoms were simply subsiding, but when I stopped taking
the supplement, about a week later they came back. On your 5-HTP web
site, and on a Paxil withdrawal web site, it is recommended not to take
both together, but it is very difficult for me to even consider going
back to the place I was. I don't really want to talk to my psychiatrist
about it as he reacts extremely negatively to any "alternative" therapy.
I have taken about 175mg of 5-htp daily for over 2 years. At first I felt
much better, but then fell into a depressive like state. I stopped
taking it and thought I was better but then fell into a lower state. I
believe you mentioned stopping taking it at intervals. Perhaps my 5-HTP
dosage was too high or too often for me.
Your web site is the best I've seen on 5-htp and I'm going to see if my
library has your book. I've been considering 5-htp to treat depression.
Now that I know that the production of serotonin is predicated on a diet
containing L-tryptophan, I'm wondering if adopting a vegetarian diet
could have an adverse effect on serotonin production. I've been
depressed for as long as I've been a vegetarian, and for the past few
months I've been wondering if this is no mere coincidence. I would say I
only eat a "good" vegetarian diet 3-4 days a week at best, and then,
usually on the weekends, it's pizza, eggs, coffee, the occasional
burrito, and often skipped meals. From self-analysis and visits to
psychotherapists I have become confident that there are definitely
other, perhaps more primary, causes for my depression, possibly
including a past history of somewhat excessive MDMA use. The interesting
thing about this detail is its chronology - I chose to go vegetarian
when I decided to basically give up using E and adopt a healthier
lifestyle. Although the diet is great for the avoidance of other
ailments, perhaps I adopted it at a time when I needed the L-tryptophan
from fish, fowl and meat the most. Even if they never used MDMA, perhaps
5-htp could be a great nutritional supplement for depressed vegetarians
who sometimes don't always get all the essential amino acids from their
diet. Based on your continued recommendations of moderation I plan to
try 5-HTP 50mg 5-6 days a week for a month.
From what I understand and witnessed, for many people when they get
depressed, they become overweight and have an increased appetite. In
others, perhaps more in cases of higher levels of anxiety, they develop
mild to severe anorexia. I believe that 5-HTP or a SSRI may help to
balance out this depression and anxiety, so for some people it may lower
weight, and for others who are depressed and somewhat anorexic, there
may actually be a potential to gain weight. While I'm only now
discovering 5-HTP and have mostly recovered from my generalized anxiety
and anorexia that I had before (I've gained about 45 lbs since the point
I was reasonably anorexic), I still find that even now 5-HTP helps to
stimulate and maintain a healthy appetite. I wouldn't want to see the
potential disinformation spreading around that 5-HTP will always cause
people to lose their appetite, or to insinuate that a depressed person
with anorexic symptoms will lose more weight by taking 5-HTP. I think
much more research needs to be done in this area, and in 5-HTP in
general.
I took 5-htp for several months with no side effects. Then only took 5-HTP
occasionally at night (it took me months though to connect the two
events). I started having this terrible problem of being awakened in the
middle of the night with almost projectile emesis which would then
result in horrible esophageal spasms and then diarrhea. I really didn't
realize there was connection except thought maybe taking 5-HTP pills
late, they would stick in my throat and cause some reaction. Then one
day I took a 5htp at 11:00 AM and had the same reaction. I threw away
the rest of the bottle.
I have been giving my 8-year old son 5-HTP for the past year. For me 5-HTP
was preferable to the PROZAC that the physician wanted to prescribe. For
the first 6 months I gave him 50 mg of 5-HTP daily with his evening
meal. There was a noticeable improvement in his behavior within 2 weeks.
For the past 6 months I have given him 25 mg of 5-HTP combined with
several other natural stress relieving herbs (i.e. Kava Kava, St. John's
wort) with his morning meal. My son’s mood improved again and he is
happier and more content than he has every been. My son has reacted very
positively to this supplement. He was severely depressed, had low
self-esteem and was extremely aggressive. He was hitting his school
mates daily and had no friends. After 1 month on the 5-HTP he has not
hit a kid since. One year later he now has a couple of friends, he is
generally happy all the time and we are able to reason with him.
I've been taking 5- HTP 50 mg every other day at bedtime for 2 months.
then I stopped taking 5-HTP for 1 month as directed on your website.
It's the only thing that I've found that works for me for my bi-polar. I
went on ginkgo for the month that I was off the 5- HTP towards the end
of the month I was starting to get down again, so I immediately went
back to the 5- HTP, and now I feel good again. I was taking
antidepressants from my psychiatrist without any luck. He wanted me to
go on lithium, but I heard too many bad things about it, so I never took
it. I also have been exercising and trying to have a positive outlook on
life, whereas before, I didn't. I believe that it's due to the 5-HTP.
Thank you so much for the info on it.
Dear Dr. Sahelian, when I came across your 5-HTP book, it's as if I found
a gold mine. I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia and I was weaned myself
off Zoloft which I have been taking for the past 3 years. The very first
day that I took 5-HTP, I managed to get out of bed and function normally
after being in bed for almost 10 days. I have also been suffering from
anxiety disorder. I'm only 32 years old and I've had my share of
different types of antidepressants. Since I started 5-HTP my severe
migraines have disappeared and I only started taking it 10 days ago. I
can't believe I finally found something that will help my symptoms. Keep
up your great work and God bless you and may He grant you health and
strength to continue helping people.
I am a 24 year-old, 240 lb. male. I had been taking 50 mg of 5-HTP, before
bedtime during the week, with weekends off for 3 weeks. I woke up far
more readily (I have always had a problem oversleeping) feeling
refreshed, which was terrific. However, in the evening on the weekends I
would get headaches about the time I would normally have taken the
5-HTP. Three or four days after I stopped using the 5-HTP entirely, the
headaches went away.
I suffer from panic, anxiety and depression. I have been off of SSRI's for
a year now and in my search for something less dangerous, you have
educated me on 5-htp. Last night I took my first 5-HTP dose of 50mg at
about 10:30pm, I did not fall asleep until about 3am - and had vivid
harmful 'scary' thoughts & I felt quite alert.
I cannot thank you enough for writing the book "5-HTP Nature's Serotonin
Solution." My mother picked up the book, as she is more interested in
herbal remedies than chemical ones, and I now understand why. I was
prescribed 75mg of Effexor XR for depression back in November 2000 (for
Seasonal Affective Disorder). I am not sure if you are aware of the
horrible side effects associated both with being on this drug and
especially with coming off this drug. Just to briefly brief you, some of
the side effects are: irritability, depression, mood swings, somnolence,
tremor, dizziness, vertigo, zaps in the brain, auditory and visual
hallucinations, anxiety, nightmares, changes in eyesight (all listed on
the Wyeth-Ayerst webpage). I went through this withdrawal, I put myself
on the 5-HTP (Prozac made me manic, and my mother was so worried about
me). Within 48 hours ALL of the side effects I had experienced with the
Effexor XR withdrawal were GONE! It was amazing! I have a decreased
appetite, increased energy, no depression, I am finally the mother and
the wife that I should be, and that my daughter has the right to have.
I am telling you this in case you are interested in maybe
starting up a study on the effects the 5-HTP has on people coming off of
Effexor and Effexor XR. There are many webpages out there telling
hundreds and thousands of stories about people who are unnecessarily
suffering from withdrawal from this horrible drug. They need help. I am
trying to help them. I am recommending both the herbal and your 5-HTP
book to help them. I think the 5-HTP word needs to be spread, and it
would be nice if you could look into this. I am not an M.D. I am
obviously not qualified to give people medical advice, but if 5-HTP can
help people coming off of other drugs, they need to know the option is
out there! Thank you for listening, thank you for writing your 5-HTP
book!!
Dr. Sahelian, I would like to thank you for your website. I am 42 yrs old
and have suffered the effects of severe anxiety and depression for 22
years. Like so many other sufferers, I sought psychiatrist after
psychiatrist looking for help through the years, but all these doctors
did was dig into my childhood telling me what an imperfect childhood I
had (so who has an absolutely perfect childhood?) I tried many
anti-depressants but couldn't tolerate most of them and the ones I could
were of no benefit and had uncomfortable side effects. I stopped looking
to doctors for help because I knew that what was wrong with me had
absolutely nothing to do with my childhood and had everything to do with
what was going on in my brain. Through the years, one sibling after
another fell prey to serotonin imbalance-related disorders until it
became more than obvious that we had inherited brain chemistry problems
and my mother informed us who the ancestors in her family were who had
moods disorders. There were more than a few. Because my condition was
left so long improperly treated, I became worse and worse until I was
unable to work (or even think with any clarity whatsoever, or even be
able to concentrate long enough to read 4 sentences in a book). I was in
extreme emotional and mental pain, not to mention the severe financial
devastation that took place over the years from not being able to work.
But that wasn't the worst of it. I couldn't bring myself to drum up any
hope whatsoever in again looking for help because of my extreme fear of
doctors which developed partly because of my experiences with them and
partly because of the severity of my irrational fears which had worsened
through the years without treatment. I was alone, isolated, desperate,
hopeless, terrified, helpless, emotionally abused by some family members
because of my inability to get help, and most definitely would have
committed suicide had it not been for my exaggerated fear of death.
Then, this past January, I found your website about 5-htp which caused
me to research it thoroughly. Initially, 5-htp gave me an extremely
comforting sense of relaxation that was worth more than all the money in
the world considering what I had been through for 22 years. After
several weeks, this extreme relaxation started to wane and I was tempted
to give up on 5-HTP, but something told me to keep going, even though I
was still left with all the other horrible symptoms of severe anxiety
and depression. After another month, I started to notice several of my
many anxiety and depression symptoms starting to reduce ever so
slightly. Even though it was extremely slow, every one of my symptoms
continued to reduce and I actually started to feel that it was possible
that 5-htp could possibly cause me to completely recover from my
horrible nightmare. I started in January and here I am in early May
almost completely recovered from severe Social Anxiety Disorder, severe
Generalized Anxiety Disorder, and severe Depression. Even though not
quite 100%, I feel like a brand new person. I'm much more comfortable
around people now, my concentration and absorption levels continue to
improve, my sleep is better, my mood is far more stable and upbeat now,
I smile a heck of a lot more, many horrible aches and pains and muscle
tensions have disappeared, my breathing is better, my fears have greatly
reduced, my anger and confusion has almost completely disappeared, I
have control over my thoughts now, I have absolutely no more panic
attacks, and my future looks very bright. 5-htp brought me out of the
horrific and desperate depths of hell into a brand new life. This
tremendous gift of a new healthy life I received from taking only 50 mg
5-HTP every other day, occasionally every day. That's a very low dose
considering how sick and incapacitated I was. I had started out on a
much higher 5-HTP dose but realized it was exacerbating some of my
anxiety symptoms, so I dropped it to 50 mg every other day. Please let
others know that sometimes, it does take a long time to get good results
from 5-htp. All I know is I wasn't getting the results I am now the
first month or two and I think people should be aware that for some of
us, it takes a long time. Thank you, thank you, thank you to you and
other smart docs who are not ignoring the success of supplements that
the rest of the medical community seems bent on ignoring. Thank you for
informing the public about important supplements such as 5-htp. You and
5-htp literally saved my life from utter torment. A MILLION TIMES thank
you !!!!!!
I wanted to write an email to the woman who suffered with anxiety for 22
years. My heart goes out to her a thousand times. I have been suffering
from horrible anxiety for the past year and a half. None of the
medications that I have tried have helped me. I am incredibly sensitive
to them and they usually make me feel worse after about a month. I
wanted to know how she is doing now and just tell her that she must be
the strongest person ever to have lived through that. I am so incredibly
grateful for discovering 5-HTP because I don't think I could take this
much longer. I cannot even fathom living with this for 22 years. My
heart goes out to you!!
For 2 years, I struggled with fatigue which was more a "mental" fatigue
than a physical fatigue. I changed diet, changed work, did more exercise
etc. But after doing all of this, I still had periods of extreme fatigue
(lack of concentration) where I had to stop working. My doctor suggested
to take anti-depression drugs even if I was not feeling depressed, to
try it since I had tried a lot of different stuff that didn't really
work. I took Zoloft for 4 days with a lot of side effects. I decided to
switch to a natural product. A naturopath suggested 5-HTP. After 4 days
of taking 5-HTP, I was almost back to normal. Concentration was back, I
was feeling great. I am in my 5th week of taking 5-HTP were I took 100mg
daily for 3 weeks and now I am taking 70 mg 5-HTP and phasing out
gradually.
The first day I took it, I had wild dreams. I was taking all
the 5-HTP dose at night and found that waking up in the morning was more
difficult than usual. I decided to spread the 5-HTP dose during the day.
I never experience any drowsiness. And I found that my appetite did
increase! I was hoping to be able to lose a pound our two but I gained
them instead! Anyway, I must say that 5-HTP saved my life. I am now
feeling well. I can work normally. Your book did help me a lot
understanding how 5-HTP works and how it could help me.
Hello! I came across information about 5-htp last week when I was
researching the links between carbohydrate and nicotine addiction. I
discovered a web site that emphasized a deficiency in serotonin as being
a major cause for depression, addiction, insomnia and a variety of
impulsive and compulsive behaviors. I felt as though it described me to
a tee! This article also mentioned that a low level of serotonin may be
linked to a traumatic childhood experience, which I found to be very
interesting. It offered 5-htp as a solution and I began taking 50 mg
before bedtime 4 days ago. I think that many people are looking for a
"quick fix" for depression or anxiety without making a consorted effort
for a serious lifestyle change. It seems that many people jump from
remedy to remedy and therapist to therapist hoping to find that which
will cure them of all that makes them "abnormal." In my situation,
I practice yoga, I have seen a therapist, I try to exercise regularly, I
write a lot and I try to maintain a healthy diet, but it seems that no
matter what I do, I have an incessant urge to smoke and to binge on
carbohydrates and these urges become very difficult for me to fight off.
Fortunately, I am not overweight and I suffer from bouts of depression
where I usually end up in a period of positive re-evaluation. Depression
helps me look a little deeper and I learn from that, although I realize
for many people it is difficult, if not impossible to snap out of a
depression without chemical assistance. The bottom line is this- I am
looking to continue along the path of trying to lead a healthy
lifestyle, and I hope to integrate 5-htp into my life in order to
supplement what I believe to be biological deficiencies and help curb my
addictive behavior. I am not looking for a quick fix- there is hard work
involved with fighting these demons and it is a battle to live a
"natural life" in an "unnatural world"- it is a process of finding
balance. I like your philosophy and I like your style- you are
informative and helpful without preaching or self-promotion and that is
unique in the field of alternative medicine. I have ordered your books
and I look forward to reading them.
I took 100 mg of 5-HTP for a month to help me sleep. Then, I had what
appeared to be gall bladder attacks. A scan the week I was sickest
showed that my gall bladder was functioning at only 4%. I stopped taking
the 5-HTP and haven't had an attack for two weeks.
I am using 5-HTP. I read your book 'Mind Boosters' and have to admit 5-HTP
does help with my low moods. I'm still skeptical. Over the last few
years I've become tired of antidepressants having tried quite a few
including SSRIs and MAO's and even St. John's wort, none of which were
effective in the long term.
I’m a forty year-old male and have suffered from depression for most of my
adult life and found Paxil a godsend when prescribed to me in 1994. My
dosage on Paxil was 30 mg per day. I was extremely relieved to be rid of
depression and found the side effect negligible however I did gain
weight (from 225 to 286) during this time and remained single with out
much drive or libido. Early in 2000 my sleep began to degenerate with
frequent wakings throughout the night and began to notice how dead
inside I felt. By early summer I had researched alternatives and decided
to try 5-htp. On July 1st I slowly weaned myself off Paxil over a
two-week period and began taking 5-htp at 50mg twice per day. Let me say
this was a rollercoaster ride and I may have started the 5-htp too soon
but was experiencing great anxiety and depression. It took about a month
to determine my dosage of 5-HTP 100mg three times daily. My sleep
improved dramatically. I have since lost 32 lbs and have started dating
actively again after five years. I feel much more alive and though not
completely rid of my depression it does appear to be bearable. I came
across your 5-HTP site because I am once again researching this
supplement because my depression seems to be creeping back.
I am 32 and have suffered from depression, bulimia, and chemical addiction
since my teen years. I have tried almost all antidepressants of which
have all have had little to no affect on me except for Wellbutrin. I am
taking between 300-450mg a day currently and am also taking Trazadone
100mg qHS. I am battling alcoholism which has become much worse in the
last 2 years. I am 20 days sober. I started taking 5-htp 15 days ago
with amazing results, but have had to take enormous amounts to even
touch on the anxiety (300-400 mg of 5-htp qd). 5-HTP has been a savior
for me and also has helped in controlling my bulimia. I have more
patience, and am less compulsive. However, I fear that the 5-HTP dosage
is too high. I have not had any side effects. I have always had a high
tolerance to medications. This is really the only thing that has worked
for my intense alcohol cravings! Also, I am worried because I am
starting treatment and my counselor wishes for me to absolutely NOT take
5-htp. I finally feel a glimmer of hope to get me through the awful
cravings that chemical addiction brings, the awful behaviors associated
with bulimia and obsessive compulsive disorder, and the feelings
associated with major depression.
I have been taking 5-htp for weight loss, and the results so far are
amazing. My cravings for sugar have disappeared, and I am able to easily
make healthier food choices. In fact, I have to make sure I am getting
enough calories each day, as the first time I took a 50mg 5-HTP capsule
in the morning, I found that by 5 pm, I had only eaten about 200
calories that day.
So thrilled to have come across 5-HTP information as I have suffered from
intense carb cravings all of my life and the side effect of wt. gain and
extreme dieting. Every single person in my family has some sort of
addiction. - sugar, alcohol, drugs. It seems serotonin deficiency could
be an inherited problem with me. With just one dose of 50mg of 5-HTP, I
immediately felt the results of relief the next day. I felt uplifted,
happy and no cravings.
In my experience, taking as little
as 5 mg of 5-HTP removes mild depression outright (I had previously been
severely depressed for years), while taking even 25 mg of 5-HTP is
unpleasantly energizing, and almost made me give up on 5-HTP, which
would have been a mistake. Nowadays, I take 5 mg 5-HTP only when I feel
slightly depressed, and the feeling goes away in less than an hour, not
to return for days or weeks. The serotonin balance in some brains is
very delicate, and large sudden changes in it can be disorienting.
Are there any cautions regarding the combination of Prozac and 5-HTP?
5-HTP is an over the counter nutrient that converts
into serotonin, one of the brain chemicals involved in mood. The use of
5-HTP in combination with SSRIs such as Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, and
others has not been formally evaluated. Anecdotal reports indicate that
many people tolerate small amount of 5-HTP, for instance 25 mg or less,
with small amounts of SSRIs when used under the guidance of a medical
professional. Most capsules of 5-HTP come in 50 and 100 mg. The effects
of taking 5-HTP along with a pharmaceutical antidepressant are sometimes
difficult to predict. Since the SSRIs, like Prozac, block serotonin
reuptake, and 5-HTP converts into serotonin, it is possible that
dangerously high levels of serotonin could occur when high doses 5-HTP
and SSRIs are combined, a condition called serotonin syndrome. It is
possible that adding small amounts of 5-HTP may reduce the dosage
requirement of SSRIs.
Is 5 htp a danger? I am in
Montreal, Canada and want to try 5 htp but need more information.
High doses of many supplements could pose danger, including
5-htp. For most people who limit their 5-htp dosage to 50 mg a few times
a week, 5-htp poses little or no danger.
Can I take 5 htp for depression
if I am on Celexa (citalopram)?
Celexa was approved in 1998. Celexa is being marketed as a
less expensive and very selective SSRI (one which only targets
serotonin, not other neurotransmitters). Since 5-htp increases serotonin
levels, one has to be cautious taking it with Celexa since
hypothetically serotonin syndrome could occur.
What's the right 5-htp dosage?
Is it better to take 100 mg at one time or to take 50 mg dosage twice a
day.
Each person responds to a different 5-htp dosage, as a
general rule I prefer taking a smaller amount since a high 5-htp dosage
can cause nausea and other unpleasant effects.
What's the difference between 5
htp and l 5 htp supplement?
Both are different spellings for the same substance, 5
hydroxy l tryptophan.
Q. Can I take 5 htp and
alcohol?
A. Alcohol is a drug that has unpredictable effects sometimes when
combined with certain herbs, nutrients, and medicines. A small amount of
alcohol, such as an ounce or two of wine should not be a danger with a
5-HTP supplement, but we caution against drinking too much.
Q. I have friends who take
5-htp after taking MDMA or ecstasy. Is there research on this?
A. I have not seen any research on the combination of 5 htp with
ecstacy also known as MDMA. Taking them together could cause nausea or
other side effects. A few anecdotal reports suggest that taking 5-htp
several hours after a small MDMA dose could be helpful in reducing
depression but I have no good proof of this yet, just a couple of emails
we have received.
Q. I have been trying to find
any information on possible drug interactions with 5-HTP and Zomig.
A. Zolmitriptan or Zomig is a drug for treating migraine headaches.
Zomig directly stimulates serotonin receptors on nerves, therefore it
appears that interactions could occur with 5-HTP but I don't know what
the combination of 5-HTP and zolmitriptan would do.
Q. I am a dentist in suburban
Philladelphia. I have a special interest in nutritional supplements.
Many of my patients are taking SSRIs for anxiety and/or depression. I
was told by the manufacturer of Paxil that users of Paxil and other
SSRIs should avoid 5-HTP and l-tryptophan supplements because of the
danger of serotonin syndrome. The manufacturer was not able to quantify
the risk; I just received a blanket CYA-like statement from them about
completely avoiding 5-HTP and l-tryptophan. This makes no sense to me,
since so many foods contain tryptophan. Are you aware of any research
that quantifies the risk of serotonin syndrome from the above
combination? Do you support and agree with the mfr's recommendation? Do
you think moderate quantities of 5-HTP (e.g., 100 mg tid for anxiety)
and tryptophan (e.g., 500 mg 30 min before hs) are safe when combined
with, e.g. a relatively low dose of Paxil (20 mg each day.)?
A. 5-HTP and tryptophan do influence serotonin levels. It is
possible to take both 5-HTP or tryptophan supplements along with Prozac,
Paxil, and Zoloft if the dosages are kept low. However, there is a
possibility of serotonin syndrome or unpleasant side effects if the
dosages are high. I consider a dosage of 5-HTP greater than 50 mg a day
to be high whereas other doctors may have a higher threshold. 5-HTP at
100 mg three times a day is a very high dosage for most people. There
may be some sensitive individuals who could have side effects with
5-HTP, tryptophan or SSRIs on very low dosages whereas others have a
higher threshold. No simple answers or dosages can be given that would
apply to everyone.
Q. I am interested in trying 5HTP pills- I
understand the dosage but am unclear on how long I can take the 5HTP pills. I am
healthy and take no medications except multivitamins.
A. The dosage of 5HTP and the frequency of use depends on what
specific condition is being treated. As a general rule, the dosage and the
frequency of use of the pills should be least amount that works.
I have tried 5-HTP for insomnia and have
found it to be beneficial except that it causes major gastro-intestinal upset
(primarily diarrhea). I've tried the enteric-coated tablets and capsules, and
they also cause the same problem. There have been some new formulations of 5HTP
spray that are supposed to be sprayed sublingually. There are also 5HTP lozenges
dissolvable sublingually. Do you believe these new 4-HTP formulations are
as effective as ingested 5HTP? And are they readily absorbed through the blood
vessels under the tongue?
I don't have much experience with the 5-HTP spray and
lozenges. 5-HTP can be used sublingually but I don't have enough experience to
know the acceptable dosage range. To minimize gastrointestinal symptoms, a good
option would be to use less of a dose or split the dose in two a few hours
apart.
Is there any obvious interaction or
information between the use of a
saw palmetto herb and 5 htp supplements?
Saw palmetto is a safe herb that can combine with most other
herbs and supplements.
I would like to know if 5 HTP is
metabolized in the brain. Where I can find out if it is metabolized in the brain
where it counts.
A 5 HTP supplement, when ingested orally, is absorbed in the
bloodstream, goes to the brain, and converts into serotonin and perhaps other
substances.
I was wondering if you could tell me
if there are any adverse affects in taking 5-htp before or during surgery and
what they would be?
It is best to stop supplements a few days or a week before
major surgery, and to wait till recovery has occurred. The safety of this
supplement before or after surgery has not been tested and therefore it is best
to be cautious.
I have been taking 5-HTP 50mg
capsules for five months. I take three capsules in the morning and three in the
evening and have found it to be helpful. Originally, I started with one capsule
a day and have worked up to three twice a day, which seems to be a good amount.
I do take the supplement with food otherwise I become sick to my stomach. I have
noticed that you recommend taking breaks from this supplement, which I have not
been doing. Why is it that you suggest taking breaks? Also, I know that I am
taking more than the recommended amount, but I am a very tall woman. Should
weight be any consideration when it comes to the amount of 5-HTP a person is
taking daily?
Weight is a factor in dosage and the larger the person the
more likely they would tolerate larger dosages. Since the long term effects of
this natural serotonin booster are not known, we suggest taking breaks from use
until such studies are completed.
I am an editor of a health magazine.
I am hoping that you could comment for a story on 5-HTP. I received this story
on the price of the ingredient (see below), citing that it has risen 10 times in
the past two years. Could you comment on how this might affect the future of the
product? 5-HTP Ingredient Price Surge Causes Product Manufacturers to Cut Back:
(FAIRFIELD, NJ) January 18, 2010 – 5-Hydroxytryptophan (5-HTP) extracted from
the seed of Griffonia simplicifolia grown in West Africa, has risen nearly 10
times in price within the past two year causing U.S. product manufacturers to
cut finished product production, according to Charlie Wang, vice president of
JIAHERB, Inc., the U.S. branch of Shaanxi Jiahe Phytochem Co., Ltd., a GMP
herbal extract manufacturer in China. According to JIAHERB, a recognized 5-HTP
supplier, 20 metric tons of the naturally derived amino acid was sold in the U.S
overall in 2009. “Currently, the cost per kilo has jumped from approximately
$200 for product from the 2007 harvest, to about $2,000 a kilo for the raw
material from the 2009 harvest,” said Wang, who also noted that China and India
are home to the largest 5-HTP ingredient producers. “The international
ingredient shrinkage of 10-20% during the 2009 harvest season is just one reason
for higher costs,” notes Wang. “Many manufacturers, distributors and brokers are
stockpiling materials to gain a greater price margin and this also causes the
amount per kilo to increase. “We recommend going directly to the ingredient
manufacturer before the start of the annual ingredient collection season which
begins every January, and lock in a price,” says Charlie Wang. During the cost
crisis, Wang says manufacturers of 5-HTP retail products have to continue to
keep their customers satisfied and keep a smaller amount of finished product on
store shelves. As a result, JIAHERB, the largest manufacturer of herbal
ingredients with its corporate headquarters in China, is working with its
finished product manufacturing customers to stabilize the margin and ingredient
supply and ensure product will be available until the next harvest. “The coming
harvest season will set the price for the following year,” Wang said. “Obviously
higher costs must be passed on to the end user. But just how much will consumers
be willing to pay?” JIAHERB, Inc. has a 300,000 square-foot, state-of-the-art
NSF-GMP certified, ISO9001, ISO14000 and HACCP manufacturing facility plus
in-house lab testing, and product extraction and purification processes through
its research and development facility based in China. Maintaining the utmost in
product quality, Kosher and Halal certifications and customer service, JIAHERB
offers a wide-range of herbal extracts that meets Good Manufacturing Practices
(GMP).
I have noticed over the past few months the price of the raw
material increasing and I have recommended the company I consult for, Advance
Physician Formulas, to increase the price of a 50 mg 60 count bottle from 11.95
to 14.95 per bottle and this may need to be further increased to 19.95 soon if
the raw material cost does not come down. How much is the consumer willing to
pay? It depends. If they are familiar with this supplement and it has worked for
them before in terms of treatment for insomnia, depression, appetite control,
and anxiety reduction, they would be willing to continue purchasing it since it
is cheaper than SSRI drugs. However, potential new customers may be hesitant.
Certainly more shoppers will visit different stores or search further online to
find bargains. We will see how the price fluctuates over the next few months.
Does this supplement have an effect
on acne?
I don't think this nutrient has an effect on acne pimples.